Posted by Ben Xavier on February 25, 2003 at 10:29:31:

In Reply to: Re: Does God exists? posted by Akhil Shahani on February 14, 2003 at 09:16:55:

Prac

Just another two peneth before everyone gets bored.

I am kind of with Akhils last remark on this one. You really need to create a consensus ad idem (meeting of minds) on the question before you can answer it.

I think most people belive god to be one of the following:

An old man with beard and a lightening staff that passes his hand of natural judgement across the world, personally if you believe this then I think your going to be a bit disapointed. I just think its completely unpalletable.

Secondly, you might believe that "god is the sum of all things". This would account for statements like "god is everywhere, under pebbles, in trees" etc. It would also account for statements like "god is in all of us". God may have been the smallest partical ever, the thing every part of your being and your environment resided in prior the big bang. This leads to many other useful constructions such as: Humans have spirit, humans are part of the universe, the universe has spirit, God is the sum of all spirits. I like this one. Its Simple. and slightly scientific in nature. You can use it to prove god exists by pointing out that if he didnt neither would you, not that all are that easily tricked. It also has some rather tenous links to newer findings in quantum mechanics and the related nature of all things within the universe. This assumption also assumes that all things are holistic, ie not only are we all part of the same mechanical system but we ARE all the SAME thing. Suppose thats were the theory gets complicated.

Thirdly, you can believe that god is not a being or physical construct, but a natural force. Dont know alot about this but people who believe in it tell me its rather like gravity, but only applies to the living spirit. I get the impression they believe that god is an energy that results from our actions. ie if you chuck a rock then no natural force caused it, such as gravity, or magnetism. This makes the energy rather karmic in nature. Leaders can whisper orders and send thousands into battle. This kind of energy obviously exists but we have no measurement for it. If you can step back from it all and take it in its really peverse.

If you dont hold much faith in any of the above you could always resort to the logic of Pythagoras, he believed in god because if it doesnt exist he has lost nothing, but if he does then he gets a top spot in heaven.

Whatever you do, believe in something theres no one duller then a complete nihilist.

Regards

Ben Xavier

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