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Posted by Mezei on August 13, 2002 at 16:08:12:
In Reply to: Re: Knowledge and Truth follow up posted by Jack Vinson on August 13, 2002 at 15:05:45:
Hi Jack, good points.
Ultimately, I think knowledge is the flip side of truth. Like in Built to Last by Collins/Porras, preserve the core (truth) and stimulate progress (knowledge).
Knowledge is only knowledge because it requires truth to be an integral part of its existence. Throw out truth, and you throw out knowledge. Together they comprise something bigger, the corporate Ideals.What does that mean relative to information and data?
That's something I understand in theory, but I've been trying for the last couple of weeks to understand the practical side ot it.
Because knowledge, information and data all function according to the same principles. They only appear different because of 'context'. For example, when we extract data from either Nature or the business, we are using the same principle as if we were extracting knowledge from information. The only difference is the context.
So, what are the levels of context?
Pertaining to data, data exists between the worlds of biological and inorganic experience. So when we look at data, we are looking at a level of experience that begins with the inanimate, and goes up to the biological.
Information exists between the worlds of the biological and the social.
Knowledge exists between the social and the intellectual.
Now the trick is, that the human level of experience extends from the intellectual 'half-way' to the social/biological, and the technological level extends halfway from the social/biological to the inorganic. So we have a duality existing over a triad, so to speak. You can see all this in a paper I wrote, the Unified Theory of Knowledge by clicking on http://www.islandnet.com/~dmezei/unifiedtheoryofknowledge.pdf
The point being that everything is ultimately subjective, how we see the world operating comes from an individual point of view. If we share that view, others may see it as well (or not). But its always individual.
When we develop points of view that slide away from knowledge and towards information, we are changing context, and thus, ITS MORE DIFFICULT TO VERIFY TRUTH (just thought of that now). When we enter the biological and the inorganic (physics anyone), it becomes extremely difficult to apply truth. We end up assembling data and hypothesis. Very rarely can a truthful assumption be derived, because it takes like an Einstein to make the broad leap from intellectual experience to inorganic.
So truth becomes less and less certain as we slide down the range of knowledge, info and data.
Don
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